tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post110987433867601190..comments2024-02-08T00:38:57.594-05:00Comments on Talmud תלמוד by Tzvee Zahavy: Is One-page-a-day Daf Yomi Talmud Study Good for the Jews?Tzvee Zahavyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15833902273722124103noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-77520976428336641022010-01-11T07:29:50.274-05:002010-01-11T07:29:50.274-05:00How about requiring 30 minutes a day learning muss...How about requiring 30 minutes a day learning mussar, before learning gemarah at all.Alexander Moshehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13240756752602533971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-16737798280229012712010-01-06T18:07:26.687-05:002010-01-06T18:07:26.687-05:00I am not certain that you are representing Rabbi J...I am not certain that you are representing Rabbi Joseph Soloveitchik's opinion correctly. First, you were studying for semicha at REITS, whereas Daf Yomi is aimed at a broader group. Second, from your description of the bekius shiur in question, it sounds as if it moved quite a bit faster than a typical daf yomi (which, at least in the incarnations I have seen it, typically last 1-2 hours a day, every day for 7 and a half years.) Third, I very much doubt that R. Soloveitchik would have engaged in lashon hara against R. Meir Shapiro, who is also regarded as one of the Torah greats of our period; much less have used sarcasm to address R. Shapiro. Fourth, I note that a prominent member of the Soloveitchik dynasty, R. Yosef Soloveitchik (son of R. Aharon Soloveitchik and nephew of R. J. B. Soloveitchik) apparently gives daf yomi shiurim at Yeshivas Brisk (where he is rosh yeshiva) in the Old City of Jerusalem.<br /><br />You raise a point about retention, but it is hard for me to believe that nothing at all is retained by daf yomi participants. Indeed, I have even met learned rabbis who keep copies of the Bavli in their offices because they need to remind themselves of the text; apparently not even those who learn intensively retain everything. One hopes, at least, that those learning in daf yomi and for semicha at least retain the principles of "how to learn"; that is they learn those principles of Talmudic logic that many recite each morning at Shacharis. <br /><br />You mention that it takes weeks to get through a single amud; if you mean by this an average of just two weeks, then one can do a simple calculation and see that to complete Shas Bavli the first time will take (2711 daf) x (2 amud/daf) x (14 days/amud) = 75,908 days = 210 years. So, let me close by wishing you a long life with an extra 90 years allotment to your 120 years so that you may have time to master Shas.Theophrastushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04981876713019298465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-66966266038136600682007-05-27T02:42:00.000-04:002007-05-27T02:42:00.000-04:00As some famous rabbi said, if I may paraphrase, "M...As some famous rabbi said, if I may paraphrase, "More important than the *daf* is the *yomi*."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-52035412380578965062007-05-22T19:00:00.000-04:002007-05-22T19:00:00.000-04:00"What would the Rav Do? -- and acted accordingly."..."What would the Rav Do? -- and acted accordingly."<BR/><BR/>Oh how I wish he were alive today -- and reading your blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com