tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post3675501226373078349..comments2024-02-08T00:38:57.594-05:00Comments on Talmud תלמוד by Tzvee Zahavy: NPR Audio: Haredi in Tzahal = Big NewsTzvee Zahavyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15833902273722124103noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-21033332698029145542007-04-18T00:30:00.000-04:002007-04-18T00:30:00.000-04:00Reb Yudel,It's too bad that your 'proof' doesn't m...Reb Yudel,<BR/>It's too bad that your 'proof' doesn't match your funny sarcasm. It can be argued that there simply wasn't the critical mass of Torah/chessed/avoda required to thwart the onslaughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-47057060697328712252007-04-17T01:08:00.000-04:002007-04-17T01:08:00.000-04:00Tzvee,Don't you understand that it is the Torah st...Tzvee,<BR/><BR/>Don't you understand that it is the Torah study of the Haredim who prevent the destruction of the state by Arab armies -- just as the learning of the Haredim save world Jewry from the onslaughts of Hitler, Stalin, and U.S. President Lindbergh?Reb Yudelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07475293471910146749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-76669824044134221892007-04-17T00:28:00.000-04:002007-04-17T00:28:00.000-04:00"First lesson. Know your sources. A dubious source..."First lesson. Know your sources. A dubious source should never be cited."<BR/><BR/>You had no problem citing NPR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-55093694205324972372007-04-16T23:34:00.000-04:002007-04-16T23:34:00.000-04:00Oy vey. You are quoting one of my very favorite di...Oy vey. You are quoting one of my very favorite distorters - Rabbi Avi Shafran. He has never allowed the truth to stand in his way. He says in the link you supply, "Are haredi men in Israel freeloading draft dodgers, contemptuous of their fellow citizens and unconcerned with their safety and security? Some ardently secularist Israelis readily answer in the affirmative; and some American Jews, gently guided by much of the media, readily concur. Both groups are victims of profound ignorance and, in more than a few cases, guilty of outright prejudice."<BR/><BR/>All the time, 24 hours a day, anyone who does not hold the opinion of the distinguished Rav Shafran is profoundly igonorant and outrightly prejudiced.<BR/><BR/>First lesson. Know your sources. A dubious source should never be cited.<BR/><BR/>Second lesson. Do your homework. At least have the courtesy to read the transcript or listen to the broadcast before you post to object.<BR/><BR/>Always glad to have you comment!Tzvee Zahavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15833902273722124103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3523041.post-28873681434070731062007-04-16T22:58:00.000-04:002007-04-16T22:58:00.000-04:00"Israeli government statistics show that fully 65%..."Israeli government statistics show that fully 65% of draft-age Israelis are excused from military service." ?<BR/><BR/>(Of course, Tzvee is not inclined to lambaste anyone but the haredim.)<BR/><BR/>"That arrangement (with the religious scholars), part of the "religious status quo" (was) endorsed by Israel's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion..." ?<BR/><BR/>"Former Defense Minister Yitzhak Mordechai testified before Israel's High Court ... that the current number of deferments on religious grounds did no harm whatsoever to the state. What's more, former army Chief of Staff Lt.-General Amnon Lipkin-Shahak has declared that the military is simply not prepared to absorb an influx of haredi soldiers."<BR/><BR/>More at http://www.jewishamerica.com/ja/content/<BR/>amechad/amarch2.cfmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com