A: When he "pursued rabbinical studies".
For instance (from numerous sources):
"Rabbi Yaakov Menken, director of the Torah.org Web site, is the author of hundreds of Torah commentaries and holds a bachelor's degree from Princeton University. He pursued rabbinic studies in Yeshivas Ohr Somayach, Bais Medrash Gavoha in Lakewood and Jerusalem, and the Mirrer Yeshiva Jerusalem before founding Project Genesis in 1993."
"When is a rabbi not a rabbi?"
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to tell whether you are being humorous, or accusatory, with this question. Are you claiming that Y. Menken is not a rabbi?
I'm not being picky here. When you have semicha you say that and you name the yeshiva or rabbi who ordained you. you don't say "pursued rabbinic studies". sounds very much like he dropped out of three yeshivas. accordingly i am assuming he is not ordained. that raises the question then of why he calls himself "rabbi".
ReplyDeleteWhat about Hihrhurim?
ReplyDeleteHe is also a RIETS dropout who now has the nerve to claim to speak as its true continuity and as more authoritative than true RIETS graduates.
I respect Hirhurim. He does not cross the line into that bizarre world where reality has no place.
ReplyDeleteAs to his semicha, I will ask him.
Gil Student is a good and credible guy. I asked him:
ReplyDelete"I am an Orthodox rabbi" - you say that on your blog. someone has raised a question to me about your semicha. could you clarify where you received semicha and who signed your klaf?
thanks
tzvee
He wrote me as follows and I won't press him further:
Private semicha - rav u-manhig. I'm not sure if I should be saying who signed the klaf because he had political concerns last time I asked. No one particularly famous but he has a fancy title.
Be well,
Gil Sudent
has the nerve to claim to speak as its true continuity
ReplyDeleteAnyone who learned in a yeshiva can speak based on his experience. I think 5 years in YU gives me more than a little background to speak about it and based on it.
and as more authoritative than true RIETS graduates
More authoritative? Says who? Although, for what it's worth, I am in frequent contact with RIETS graduates and occasional contact with RIETS rabbeim.
anonymous,
ReplyDeletewhat are your credentials? what gives you the right to question?
"As to his semicha, I will ask him."
ReplyDeleteYou were considerate enough to do this to R' Student, but not R' Menken?
Glad you asked. Of course I wrote to Menken. He answered me with sarcasm and insults but no information about his claimed semicha. Try yourself. Write to him at menken@torah.org and if you receive information that you think relevant, feel free to post it.
ReplyDeleteI'll probably get a straight answer from him since I don't have a track record of heckling him.
ReplyDeleteknock yourself out - and let us know indeed if you do get a straight answer from Mr. Menken.
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