Reuters: Vatican Blind to the Dangers of Its Liturgies

Cardinal Kasper is not an honest man.
The Vatican is not honest.

For a German churchman to say, "I must say that I don't understand why Jews cannot accept that we can make use of our freedom to formulate our prayers" -- that is nonsense. Here's why.

1. The Church has no right to single out the Jews in its prayers.
2. Doing so targets the Jews as deficient, as lacking, as inferior.
3. Gee, that is what another German named Hitler did too.

And I utterly recoiled when I read this next load of Cardinal Kasper crap: "Furthermore, Jews have prayers in their liturgical texts that we Catholics don't like." Here's why it's nonsense.

1. There has never been a pogrom carried out by Talmud-wielding Jews against Catholics.
2. There has never been a rabbinic inquisition directed against Catholics.
3. There has never been a Catholic Holocaust in a Jewish Europe.

It's not about liking or disliking the poetry or content of this or that liturgy. This objection that we raise as Jews is based on our experiences of suffering at the hands of Christians for centuries. You have killed and tortured us. We have an obligation to object to your continued attacks against us.

Stop using your religion as a club against us.
Stop singling us out.
You have no business talking about us in your churches.
Mind your own Church business.
Stay away from us.
We don't want to be your targets anymore.

Do you get it now, Herr Cardinal "in charge of relations with the Jews"? DO YOU GET IT? No, of course, you do not.
Vatican cardinal defends Jewish conversion prayer
By Philip Pullella

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) - The top Vatican cardinal in charge of relations with Jews on Thursday denied a new prayer for their conversion was offensive and said Catholics had the right to pray as they wished.

Cardinal Walter Kasper spoke in an interview in a leading Italian newspaper a day after world Jewish leaders said the new prayer could set back inter-religious dialogue by decades.

"I must say that I don't understand why Jews cannot accept that we can make use of our freedom to formulate our prayers," Kasper, a German, told the Corriere della Sera.

The Vatican on Tuesday revised a contested Latin prayer used by a traditionalist minority on Good Friday, removing a reference to Jewish "blindness" over Christ and deleting a phrase asking God to "remove the veil from their hearts".

Jews criticized the new version because it still says they should recognize Jesus Christ as the savior of all men. It asks that "all Israel may be saved" and keeps an underlying call to conversion that Jewish leaders had wanted omitted.

"We think that reasonably this prayer cannot be an obstacle to dialogue because it reflects the faith of the Church and, furthermore, Jews have prayers in their liturgical texts that we Catholics don't like," Kasper said.

In a separate interview with Vatican Radio, Kasper said: "The Holy Father wanted to say 'yes, Jesus Christ is the savior of all men, including the Jews'."

He added: "But this does not mean we are embarking on a mission (to covert Jews). We are giving witness to our faith."

Jewish groups complained last year when the Pope issued a decree allowing wider use of the old-style Latin Mass and a missal, or prayer book, that was phased out after the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, which met from 1962 to 1965.

They protested against the re-introduction of the old prayer for conversion of the Jews and had asked the Pope to change it.

Jewish organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the American Jewish Committee and The International Jewish Committee on Inter-religious Consultations criticized the new version.

"While we appreciate that some of the deprecatory language has been removed ... we are deeply troubled and disappointed that the framework and intention to petition God for Jews to accept Jesus as Lord was kept intact," Abraham Foxman, U.S. national director of the ADL, said in a statement.

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